Comments on: Digital engagement governance – a dichotomy between hyperlocal or partnership managed http://www.ide-smith.co.uk/?p=350 Thoughts on gov 2.0, MSc research and user centred design Wed, 25 Aug 2010 07:52:50 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.1 By: Anthony Zacharzewski http://www.ide-smith.co.uk/?p=350&cpage=1#comment-182 Anthony Zacharzewski Mon, 16 Nov 2009 11:50:38 +0000 http://www.ide-smith.co.uk/?p=350#comment-182 I think your pros and cons are spot on, and to some extent the answer needs small-p political judgement on what the aim of the interaction is and how long the institution you are creating will be around for (short-term might be quicker set up by the partnership, long-term immunity to funding and political changes comes from community ownership). I think your pros and cons are spot on, and to some extent the answer needs small-p political judgement on what the aim of the interaction is and how long the institution you are creating will be around for (short-term might be quicker set up by the partnership, long-term immunity to funding and political changes comes from community ownership).

]]> By: Michele Ide-Smith http://www.ide-smith.co.uk/?p=350&cpage=1#comment-167 Michele Ide-Smith Sun, 01 Nov 2009 17:42:49 +0000 http://www.ide-smith.co.uk/?p=350#comment-167 Paul (Nash in this case!), Thanks for sharing your experiences and link to your site. I like the addition of recordings of public meetings. I've bookmarked the site and will keep an eye out to see how it progresses. We have an additional difficulty in that quite a few residents are from the accession states and English isn't their first language. So any important information or views will have to be translated, hopefully by volunteers. Michele Paul (Nash in this case!),

Thanks for sharing your experiences and link to your site. I like the addition of recordings of public meetings. I’ve bookmarked the site and will keep an eye out to see how it progresses. We have an additional difficulty in that quite a few residents are from the accession states and English isn’t their first language. So any important information or views will have to be translated, hopefully by volunteers.

Michele

]]> By: paul canning http://www.ide-smith.co.uk/?p=350&cpage=1#comment-166 paul canning Sun, 01 Nov 2009 17:39:17 +0000 http://www.ide-smith.co.uk/?p=350#comment-166 Another issue here is the government floating ideas around supporting local media, which is disappearing. There have been some newspapers which have started local online blogs and others which have localised pages on their sites. I talked to the Bournemouth paper and my contact in that council as they both appeared to be doing much the same thing. What seemed to be stopping them was problems with reuse of Ordnance Survey derived data. Sigh. Another issue here is the government floating ideas around supporting local media, which is disappearing. There have been some newspapers which have started local online blogs and others which have localised pages on their sites. I talked to the Bournemouth paper and my contact in that council as they both appeared to be doing much the same thing. What seemed to be stopping them was problems with reuse of Ordnance Survey derived data. Sigh.

]]> By: Paul Nash http://www.ide-smith.co.uk/?p=350&cpage=1#comment-165 Paul Nash Sun, 01 Nov 2009 17:24:56 +0000 http://www.ide-smith.co.uk/?p=350#comment-165 I will be very intrested to follow the progress of this, Michele there is a big gap that this kind of work needs to fill. My own experience is that what we might call the traditional community engagement is essential but that, certainly in the early stages hyperlocal based approaches become more of a channel for information rather than a discussion and sharing forum. I've even had the experience of people reading things on a hyperlocal site following a community meeting and then knocking on the door and stopping me in the street to discuss. Some of this is, I know, down to ideas about broadcast channels, and some down to unfamiliarity and we need to engage members of the community in the idea of a channel for sharing a point of view.While we started with a community action about village property the same group of activists also became engaged in a consultation for the local authority on the new County core strategy, so we know it can work. I'm not sure about the local authority mediated approach there are issues of ownership with which I don't believe local authorities have quite come to terms. I thererfore wait with great interest to see how your work pans out. In the meantime, FYI you can look at www.thesquareprees.ning.com to see our hyperlocal site and hear the recordings of the consultation event as well as the original activist meetings. I look forward to hearing more about your activity. I will be very intrested to follow the progress of this, Michele there is a big gap that this kind of work needs to fill. My own experience is that what we might call the traditional community engagement is essential but that, certainly in the early stages hyperlocal based approaches become more of a channel for information rather than a discussion and sharing forum. I’ve even had the experience of people reading things on a hyperlocal site following a community meeting and then knocking on the door and stopping me in the street to discuss. Some of this is, I know, down to ideas about broadcast channels, and some down to unfamiliarity and we need to engage members of the community in the idea of a channel for sharing a point of view.While we started with a community action about village property the same group of activists also became engaged in a consultation for the local authority on the new County core strategy, so we know it can work.

I’m not sure about the local authority mediated approach there are issues of ownership with which I don’t believe local authorities have quite come to terms. I thererfore wait with great interest to see how your work pans out.

In the meantime, FYI you can look at http://www.thesquareprees.ning.com to see our hyperlocal site and hear the recordings of the consultation event as well as the original activist meetings. I look forward to hearing more about your activity.

]]> By: Michele Ide-Smith http://www.ide-smith.co.uk/?p=350&cpage=1#comment-163 Michele Ide-Smith Sun, 01 Nov 2009 14:12:19 +0000 http://www.ide-smith.co.uk/?p=350#comment-163 Hi Steve, Yes I have been following http://socialbysocial.net and had been in touch with some of the people involved in it. But thanks for reminding me about it. We did discuss bringing in someone with hyperlocal knowledge at our last partnership meeting, so I guess posting on there will be the best way to reach the right people. Thanks, Michele Hi Steve,

Yes I have been following http://socialbysocial.net and had been in touch with some of the people involved in it. But thanks for reminding me about it. We did discuss bringing in someone with hyperlocal knowledge at our last partnership meeting, so I guess posting on there will be the best way to reach the right people.

Thanks,

Michele

]]> By: Steve Dale http://www.ide-smith.co.uk/?p=350&cpage=1#comment-162 Steve Dale Sun, 01 Nov 2009 13:50:10 +0000 http://www.ide-smith.co.uk/?p=350#comment-162 Have you checked out http://socialbysocial.net/ as a hyperlocal online resource for your project? There's a cohort of very knowledgeable and experienced social innovators behind this website who may also be able to offer some support (technology, admin, community engagement etc.) for your project. Steve Have you checked out http://socialbysocial.net/ as a hyperlocal online resource for your project? There’s a cohort of very knowledgeable and experienced social innovators behind this website who may also be able to offer some support (technology, admin, community engagement etc.) for your project.

Steve

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